Religious activist says individuals should be “very visibly punished” for God and country Army recruiting poster

Religious activist says individuals should be “very visibly punished” for God and country Army recruiting poster

We’ve reported here about the frequent and successful attempts by Mikey Weinstein and his Military Religious Freedom Foundation to eliminate God and Christian symbols from the U.S. Military. He really must be a cranky man, because there’s so much he finds offensive and disturbing.

Anyway, in this latest instance, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation complained to the Army Recruiting Command about a poster outside a Phoenix, Arizona recruiting station, which included the phrase, “On a mission for both God and country.”

According to Army Times, “the poster, which features a Special Forces patch along with Ranger, Airborne and Special Forces tabs, includes “a stock image” the command makes available for local recruiters, spokesman Brian Lepley said in an email, “but the text was changed by the local recruiting personnel” and not cleared by command headquarters.”

“Had the process been followed, the copy shown would not have been approved,” Lepley said.”

Ok, fair enough. But here are two particularly disturbing things about this story.

1. The command first became aware of the poster Friday morning when it received questions about the display from Army Times – according to Army Times. So Army Times is now aiding and abetting this nonsense? I guess we know what side they’re on.

And speaking of taking sides…

2.After the poster was removed, Mikey Weinstein was quoted by Army Times as saying, “whoever, in any way, shape or form, allowed that poster to be designed, prepared and displayed, those individuals should be aggressively investigated and very visibly punished.”

Very visibly punished, Mikey? You mean just like ISIS very visibly punishes folks who don’t share their religious beliefs?

Is this the sort of very visible punishment you’d like?

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Why do you even bother having the words “religious freedom” in your organization’s name? Seems like you have about as much tolerance in your bones as those folks with the black flag.

45 Comments

  1. Mikey, like most atheists, wants freedom FROM religion, not freedom OF religion. Mikey is going to have a lot of fun when the Sharia people move into his town and let him know they don’t like smug atheists any more than they like practicing Christians and Jews.

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    • That doesn’t even make sense.
      If he opposes religious law being put into US law, what makes you think he would help put religious law into US law?

      While there is no danger of Shariah law ever becoming a part of US law… if it were to ever happen, it would only because some religious fundamentalist Christian opened the door for them by allowing religious law into US law

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      • [[ While there is no danger of Shariah law ever becoming a part of US law ]]

        Says who?

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  2. Mikey should be dealt with just like George Lincoln Rockwell was.

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    • Are you seriously calling for his murder?

      Isn’t that exactly what Islamists do with their nonbelievers?

      Where is the mod for this site? I can’t believe Allen West allows this sort of language on his site.

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      • Give it a rest Joe. Untwist your panties…..

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      • These are the types of people allen west hope to attract!

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        • says the guys with a fake profile of a black racist……

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          • Fake profile??? You man the man with the different profile because the original profile was blocked

      • Yes, I am. If you’re an atheist, fine. But when you dedicate your life to destroying God, you dedicate your life to destroying the U.S., just like muslims, communists, etc., you become a mortal enemy. Time for you to die.

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        • You are either trolling, a Christian, or seriously mentally ill.

          I suspect all three.

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        • Preserving the Constitution is destroying God?
          Would you have called for James Madison’s death too?

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          • God and the Constitution are mutually exclusive?

    • I AGREE with you 100%

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  3. We’re not recruiting people to fight for a god. We’re recruiting people to fight for America and her idea of freedom and justice for all.

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  4. I enlisted for the country I love and the people of this great nation.
    I fought for myself, my country, and the men at my side.
    I did not fight for anyone’s religion and if someone had told me i was, I would have told him he was full of sh!t.

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    • I served FOR GOD, COUNTRY & FAMILY, as did most other service MEN i served with.

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      • Your personal motivation is your own… whether for your God or for your Grandma… it’s your personal decision.
        But no one tells you you are serving for someone’s religious belief.

        Imagine if someone said you were serving for Allah and Mohammed.

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        • Dont know what kind of pussy DIs you had, but mine drilled the FOUNDING FATHERS WAY, AS WELL AS AMERICAN VALUES into us recruits. I am PROUD OF MY SERVICE FOR GOD, COUNTRY & FAMILY.

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          • I never said you shouldn’t be proud of your service.
            If you served for a religious belief, that’s your business. But that’s not why everyone served.

            And I had Drill Sergeants, not Drill Instructors.
            If your DI taught you to serve God and honor the Foundin Fathers, then your DI was contradicting himself. The Founders didn’t want anyone to be forced to serve a religious belief.

          • George Washington as Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army often prayed and fasted, invoking God’s protection and providence during the entire War of Independence. He appointed chaplains for every regiment. In 1789, at his inauguration as the first President of the United States, Washington said:

            Such being the impressions under which I have, in obedience to the public summons, repaired to the present station, it would be peculiarly improper to omit, in this first official act, my fervent supplications to the Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes; and may enable every instrument employed in its administration to execute with success, the functions allotted to his charge….

            No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than the people of the United States.

            Every step by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency….

            Read more: http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/news/2012/05/did-jesus-influence-americas-founding-fathers.php#ixzz3Pe7Q0Jey
            Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/news/2012/05/did-jesus-influence-americas-founding-fathers.php#loTdtkAWpyDCoIiz.99

        • Then you wouldn’t enlist if it was for for Allah, etc., now would you? Many millions have fought for God and Country, including myself. Why don’t you just let people decide for themselves instead of taking a hard line stance against it because you are an athiest?

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          • i think you misunderstood my point.
            i have no problem with individuals choosing to fight for God in their hearts.
            i know many who did.
            I have a problem with Mr West thinking it’s okay for recruiters to tell enlistees they are fighting for God.

          • Too bad. West has every right to his POV as do you. Get over it.

          • Apparently you and Mikey ASSumed the same thing, but the poster does not tell enlistees who they are fighting for, it mentions some of the most common things people fight for. Where does it say “this is what YOU must fight for”.

          • You are playing a game of semantics.
            “for God and country” is a pretty clear

          • You are still assuming they are saying that. More likely they are simply appealing to those that would fight for those reasons, If they had a picture of a black, female soldier, are they saying you “must be” a black female? NO! Using that picture would probably be meant to appeal to both women and African-Americans. Could that be seen as sexist and/or racists? Not by most people. No more so than a picture of a white male. You and Mikey inferred a meaning that was probably not intended.

          • the better comparison would be if they had a black female soldier, as you suggested, but the printed words were “For Race and Country”
            Would that have the same neutral message?

          • No, that would imply racism, which is illegal in some forms, and frowned upon in most others. Freedom of Religion is the opposite of racism since it allows all religions to coexist as opposed to racism that tries to put one race ahead of another.

            Defending the US, to some, includes defending our traditions, to include our religious traditions,which are mostly “Christian”. Of course “God” does not have to refer only to the Christian god.

          • And for those who do not believe in God… and even those personally opposed to religion?

          • You can still serve, but that “ad” won’t appeal to you very much. It might even turn you off the idea of joining. Just like posters designed to appeal to women may not appeal to sexists, misogynists, or men. And ads designed to appeal to a particular racial minority might not appeal to other racial, or racist, groups. Likewise, ads designed to appeal to a particular socio/economic group might not appeal to other such groups. Etc., etc., etc. …

        • And? Your point? People get motivation any way they can when facing life-and-death situations.

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    • If you fought for your country, I assume you support the US Constitution. The Constitution guarantees “Freedom of Religion”. So you are partially correct, you fight for anyone’s religion, you fought for everybody’s religion.

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      • No… I did not fight for anyone’s religion… but I did fight for everyone’s right to practice their own religion.

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        • That was my point.

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  5. Calm down folks. These issues have been ongoing since the creation; unless my Scriptures are wrong, which, of course…they are not wrong.

    The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 1:9)

    More importantly, read the entire context of the article. It stated, “but the text was changed by the local recruiting personnel and not cleared by command headquarters.” If the U.S. Army Command chooses to place the word “God” into their campaign posters, I salute them! As a former serviceman, I too remember my oath; it also included the guidelines for following those authorities appointed over me. As the local Army recruiting personnel took matters into their own hands, they violated Chain of Command; hence, opening the door for wrongly motivated attacks from atheists like “Whinestein”. (Whine, whine, whine) 🙂

    Bottom line: When we do not follow regulations, we often end up shooting ourselves in the foot, or mouth, which ever comes first.

    Do not get caught up in the zeal of media blurbs. I appreciate Allen’s desire to shed some light on the nonsense in government, but we need to consider the differences between reporting facts and OP/ED posts.

    If you stick with the truths found in the Scriptures, you will never be found walking on the wrong path in this life.

    Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

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  6. This is the sorta thing that is published, but the same spirit has been around since the beginning of time..Nor worries…All is well. He is angry, hostile, lonely and a sad person..Pray for him.

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  7. What a pathetic, miserable little man Mikey must be.

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  8. Keep your damn religion out of my damn government.

    Follow the Constitution or reap the criticism.

    Your choice.

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    • Oh, and by the way, I enjoyed receiving my handheld bible given to me when I walked into the MEPS station in Oakland, CA in 1994 when I was enlisting. My bet is that you never had the balls to do the same.

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    • Moron! This country needs all the “God” we can muster. So tired of people thinking if religion and gov’t collide, the universe will implode. Freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion…just means we are free to worship as we see fit. Read and understand what the founding fathers meant, not your interpretation!

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      • You WILL keep your ignorant fantasies out of my government.

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    • Do you even know what the Constitutions says in reference to religion? Let me help you: (not the exact wording, you can look that up)

      1. Congress shall make no law respecting an institution of religion, or denying the free exercise thereof

      2. There shall be no “religious test” for any public office. This would include a test for “no religion”.

      It says nothing about keeping anyone’s “damn religion” out of OUR “damn government”!

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  9. Nothing in the Constitution says “separation of church and military”. Go Suck it liberals and athiests.

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  10. There are some 20,000 pages from the Nuremberg Trials showing how the Nazis planned to destroy Christianity. Weinstein must have enjoyed reading them. He reminds me that a great many Jews flocked to Hitler’s banner. Several close friends and advisers of his were Jewish. And, as a democrat, he should know that his party adopted Nazism as early as the 1930s, supporting Hitler every step. Joe Kennedy Sr. joined the Nazi party when an ambassador in Britain and carried it with him till he died. Soros, the man reputed to now own the DNC (most of its financial support comes from him) didn’t run when the Nazis invaded his home. Instead, he went to them with a list of wealthy Jews, where they hid their wealth, and where they hid, selling it to the Gestapo. He later was under warrant from France for that and other war crimes, but the dems here have always protected him. No, Jews like Weinstein have a long, dark history helping to slaughter Jews as well as those Hitler called ‘the other Jews’ Christians The DNC also supports the satanic cult, the Klan, appointing many to the Supreme Court, electing them to Congress. Once again, the Nazi strike at the behest, the eager support, of the DNC.

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